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Digital and Quantum computers, part 3

Comparing Digital and Quantum Computers, Part 3: The Discrete Logarithm Problem

Everyone in the IT world is wondering how big a threat quantum computers pose to cryptography and how to deal with the problem. This series of articles tries to explain the problem in a popular way. After factorization, we can look at the discrete logarithm problem.

Algorithms using the discrete logarithm problemu

Currently, we use algorithms based on the discrete logarithm problem in two main groups. The first of these groups is the classic and still used Diffie-Hellman (DH), then the now obsolete DSA (Digital Signature Algorithm), the ElGamal algorithm and the Schnorr signature. These are the most well-known algorithms, not a complete overview. The mentioned group of algorithms works on a limited group of integers (operation modulo prime number). This group uses keys with a size of kilobits, which has an impact on speed. Any operations with such large numbers are quite complex. The second group is the ECDH (Elliptic Curve Diffie-Hellman), ECDSA (Elliptic Curve DSA) and EdDSA (Edwards curve DSA) algorithms. These work in several variants. Either they are points of an elliptic curve over a number field, again limited by a prime number. Furthermore, it can be points of an elliptic curve over polynomials, bounded by an irreducible polynomial, or as a last option, field extensions are used. The keys to achieve the same level of security are an order of magnitude smaller than with the RSA algorithm and usually have a size of at most hundreds of bits. Theoretically, it is possible to use other approaches based on the discrete logarithm problem, but I do not know about their practical application, so I will not discuss them here.

So there are groups of systems that have similar properties, but as with the RSA algorithm, what are the attack possibilities? What is and is not within our power?

To attack the classic Diffie-Hellman, DSA, ElGamal and Schnorr, it is possible to use NFS-DL (Number Field Sieve – Discrete Logarithm). The first part of the calculation is sorting, it uses tens of thousands of instructions per step with difficult branch prediction, and it is also a memory-intensive operation. Therefore, a situation often arises when the necessary data is not in the cache. The next step is filtering, which requires about 500 instructions per step, again memory-intensive. The last part is evaluation, which uses few instructions, about 50 per step, but is again memory-intensive. The overall complexity of the algorithm can be expressed as follows.


O\left( \sqrt[3]{\frac{64}{9}} + 2^{n^{\frac{1}{3}}\left( \log n \right)^{\frac{2}{3}}} \right)


The memory load of the numerical sieve is also quite significant, with the expression


M \approx O\left( {\sqrt[3]{\frac{64}{9}} + 2}^{n^{\frac{1}{3}}\left( \log n \right)^{\frac{2}{3}}} \right)


The actual attack on the discrete logarithm problem over elliptic curves is still based on the Pollard 𝜌 (Pollard rho) algorithm. For this algorithm, the complexity can be defined as follows


O \approx \left( \frac{2^{\frac{n}{2}}}{\sqrt[]{m}} \right)


In this formula, n is the bit width of the key and m is the automorphism value. Of the curves used, the Weierstrass curves (NIST P-256, NIST P-384 and NIST P-521, as well as brainpoolP256r1, brainpoolP384r1, brainpoolP521r1) have automorphism m=2, and the community curves using Twisted Edwards (Ed25519 and Ed448) have the value m=8. The solution requires approximately 4000 instructions per step, and branch prediction problems very often occur. This means discarding the instruction queue and pausing the calculation for several tens to lower hundreds of cycles. On the other hand, in the case of an attack using Pollard 𝜌, the advantage is extremely low memory load.


AlgorithmComplexityOperationsInstructionsMemory (B)Time (years)Energy (J)
DSA1024248.71.21∙10141.81∙10181.21∙10145.76∙1005.05∙106
DSA2048262.88.09∙10181.21∙10238.09∙10183.84∙1053.37∙1011
DH1024246.71.21∙10141.81∙10181.21∙10145.76∙1005.05∙106
DH2048262.88.09∙10181.21∙10238.09∙10183.84∙1053.37∙1011
DH3072274.42.54∙10223.81∙10262.54∙10221.20∙1091.05∙1015
DH4096283.81.76∙10252.64∙10291.76∙10258.36∙10117.33∙1017
DH6144299.06.77∙10291.01∙10346.77∙10293.21∙10162.82∙1022
DH81922111.43.55∙10335.33∙10373.55∙10331.68∙10201.48∙1026
brainpoolP256r12127.52.40∙10389.62∙104113.05∙10241.0∙1010
brainpoolP384r12191.54.43∙10571.77∙106115.62∙10434.93∙1049
brainpoolP521r12260.01.85∙10787.41∙108112.34∙10642.05∙1070
NIST P-2562127.52.40∙10389.62∙104113.05∙10241.0∙1010
NIST P-3842191.54.43∙10571.77∙106115.62∙10434.93∙1049
NIST P-5212260.01.85∙10787.41∙108112.34∙10642.05∙1070
Curve255192126.08.50∙10373.40∙104111.07∙10249.45∙1029
Curve4482222.59.35∙10663.81∙107011.20∙10531.05∙1059

Again, these are ideal conditions. In the case of attacks on DH and DSA, the reality will be extremely different. Memory is again a bottleneck here, so access to data during the calculation will be limited by the speed of the storage. This is an extension of the calculation in the order of 103 for NVMe disks, 104 for SSD disks and 107 for HDD (magnetic disks). At the same time, memory in the order of TB is needed for the 512b number itself. The memories themselves have a consumption that corresponds to another approximately 100 W per 1.5 TB. This corresponds to a small increase in power consumption in decimal places. Furthermore, especially when analyzing a matrix, which again has a huge range, cache misses will be a frequent phenomenon. Since these are memory-intensive operations, the data will not fit in the processor cache. As a result, access to memory will often be suspended for about 200 cycles, when the calculation will not be performed and the memory will be reloaded into the cache. This means a slowdown of about 5 orders of magnitude (105 to 109 depending on the technology used). In the case of elliptic curves, the only problem is branch prediction, which slows down the calculation by up to three orders of magnitude (103 ).

As you can see, in terms of possibilities, an attack on DSA1024, DSA2048, DH1024 and DH2048 is within our capabilities. In the case of 1024b keys and smaller, these are capabilities available even to individuals, while for 2048b keys, these are capabilities available to large companies or state actors. As for larger keys or the elliptic curves that are still used today, the situation is not so simple. The question again is, are we able to carry out such an attack for these algorithms as well? We can look at it from several perspectives:


  • If we consider the time and ability to produce a sufficient number of computers? Intel and AMD have produced an estimated billions of processors in their entire history (we can consider 50 years), so we are in the order of 109 . Since the first processors had a single core for several decades and only after 2006 did multiple cores begin to be used, it is possible to consider 2.5 cores per processor. The considered available performance will reduce the time accordingly, but in the overall scope this performance will rather eliminate the small fluctuation caused by problems with the availability of large data in the processor cache.

  • If we consider only time, the universe was created 18 billion years ago. This corresponds to the order of 1010 , so we are not able to perform such a calculation fast enough. The exceptions are DSA algorithms and DH algorithms up to key size 3072b.

  • If we consider only the required power input, we can think as follows. The entire human civilization had an electrical power input of around 30,000 TWh in 2025, i.e. in the order of 1016 Wh. The sun provides us with a source with a capacity of 1018 W (what we receive on the Earth's surface), so if we wanted to freeze, we could use the energy mentioned. In the case of harnessing the entire sun, we are talking about a source with a power of 1026 W. The central black hole of our galaxy then gives 1029 W and the entire galaxy then roughly 1037 W. It is clear that even these sources are not sufficient.


To be continued in the next section Attacks with quantum computers (Mar 2nd 2026)

References:

  1. Sage Math script - Pollard rho and NFS-DL
    Source: https://cryptosession.info/ke-stazeni
  2. An algorithm to solve the discrete logarithm problem with the number field sieve
    Source: https://www.acm.org
  3. NFS with Four Large Primes: An Explosive Experiment
    Source: https://link.springer.com/
  4. Computing Individual Discrete Logarithms Faster in GF(p^n) with the NFS-DL Algorithm
    Source: https://eprint.iacr.org
  5. On the Efficiency of Pollard's Rho Method for Discrete Logarithms
    Source: https://maths-people.anu.edu.au/
  6. About Pollard rho
    Source: https://www.ams.org/

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Jan Dušátko
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